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The route from Nuen Waste Mgmt. to Brio's Breaker Yard is a really fast and lucrative route, because you don't have to leave the planet Daymar at all. But if you do it too often, pirates start to accumulate and I than usually flee to GrimHex or leave Crusader. The cutter is robust and can withstand a lot, too bad it only has 4 SCU storage.

Cave missions are great. But derelict mission examble he didnt mention any about kamikaze drones if you aproach bigger vessel. You dont have any change. And there is 3 defender. One is medium class ship. So you need good fighter to these missions and skill.

In 4.0, when we get MM revisions, the C1 needs to differentiate from the Cutty and Freelancer with more straight line speed and a touch more agility. Why? Because it has no turreted defence capability.

How do u get this to happen?

Yes i am not letting tadpole powers into my character, it does nothing good for sure

I know this comment won't get noticed but for all the star citizen players I bought 2 copies of this game but I don't own a PC I only did this to support the game my dream is to own a PC good enough to play it but alas I grew up in a broken home and can only dream my son on the other hand will not grow up like I did he has everything only I'm broke my family deserve everything I can give them but my dreams are but a memory so i don't think I'll ever get the chance to play this glorious game

That dude definitely fell asleep playing.

wait did you kill him

I would be afk trying to look up the manuel on how to operate the screen. And then a dude comes in, snaps my neck, and can explain it on his channel... #NOffSaid

I'm just starting Star Citizen and the C1 Spirit is my 2nd ship after the Avenger Titan. I got this over the Cutlass Black purely on looks. And idk I like the look of it over the Zeus, it's sexier. Even with the one entrance in the rear is fine by me, that's how I like it anyway lol. And since I don't have a large crew and no need for more storage, I'll probably keep the C1 for a while.

Just make more terminals 😅

What location is this?

I was like, "what do you mean Vulture is not ingame yet?", but then I checked the date of the video, and I was like, "Huh. Has the Vulture really been flyable for just a year?" But yeah, Buccaneer is a beast. It's too bad that its redesign made it look worse and less logical, but many CIG redesigns suffer from the same affliction.

As someone who heads up the logistics for their old, if I could upvote your video twice I would. Choices should matter. Be that components ships or how you fly them.

when i got to aim at the ore it doesn't scan or do anything even though i have the mining tool nothing its been like this for me for weeks i don't know what to do is there a button i have to press to scan or what? lol

Great idea 👍 but you forgot about some ship have working fuel scoops. 100i picies Carrack 890 jump and some others. It's gonna make most ship unwilling to own because of fuel costs. Example why is no one flying the Nomad? Coz it runs out of fuel so damn fast it's useless

If CIG values our time at least half as much as they attempt to value our money, then increasing the cost of fuel for "immersion" could be ok. With so many easy ways to die due to desync, bugs and errors counting as timesinks already, the only effect raising fuels prices would have is costing people more time. BUT, the bigger picture issues with SC is that the general immersion level of the game is going down as a result of the push to 4.0/1.0 (Master Modes, combat changes for both ships and FPS, fewer unique stations, less reason to go to planets that aren't just literal timesinks, and using time as a primary sink due to their marketing model of FOMO & convenience). Because of this, how much would an increase to fuel pricing benefit the game? None, as starter to medium ships should still be cheap upkeep, and if you can afford a large ship but aren't concierge or close with lots of ship options you won't care. Until they make an actual economy, or use a combination of the commodity tracker and starsim/quantum/whatever to make a tier 0-0.5 placeholder for one, I don't think much of anything in game will make financial sense. Once ship progression is not the only major focus, and refueling is relevant to some degree, AND they make it so there is some real risk of running out of hydrogen in Pyro w/o proper planning, then making fuel a part of it can make sense.

Oh I probably have done this. Didn't realize nobody can use terminal when I'm on it. I'll be sure to not do that

Hydrogen double or triple prices and raise quant way up. Can't got for distance much in a Vulture, but then its like 35 credits to refuel the quant tank from empty.

I agree with you about fuel in general, but I don’t think it’s the answer to multicrew. No amount of “fuel is expensive” will overcome the negative feeling of manning 2 badly placed S2 guns on a Corsair while the pilot controls more than 10x the dps. They must fundamentally reconsider the human experience of the turret/multicrew player (and no, clicking fuses, isn’t enough). I really think almost every manned turret in the game needs to go up at least 1 size, or gain a significant function in addition to its current weapons (emp, interdiction, etc). They also need to add flak to provide a real tool for large ships to contest lone fighters. Unless they nerf speeds down to like, 100ms, it’ll never be possible to hit a competent fighter that’s at the edge of its cannon range with a bigger ship turreted precision weapon-and frankly it shouldn’t be. That’s why WW2 featured flak, and that’s what we need. Create the ability to zone out fighters and poof, the entire game opens. Make flak exclusive to *manned* turrets and that’s a real reason to want to use them. Meanwhile I’d say the Warden is a clear example of needing to go up 2 sizes, to have a manned 2x S4. The Sentinel’s turret can stay S2, but should gain a QED. Similarly, the Scorp’s turret should go up 1 size to 4x S4, and the Scorp A gain the current 4x S3 in addition to its current tools. Manned turrets are meant to be the primary play loop for a human being, competitive with the level of engagement flying the ship gives. Historically, the balance was… questionable but largely fine. Manning the turret on a Scorpius really was a worthwhile experience compared to personally piloting an Arrow or Gladius. But, the F7 Mk II’s and the Corsair *exist.* If that’s the quantity of firepower we think a single pilot player should have, then we have to radically improve turrets. Ships like the Corsair, Connie, and Redeemer should be able to slave multiple manned turrets to a single manned one by default, and some of those will still need size upgrades. Other ships like the Hammerhead and Tali need burst dps buffs, either by adding 2 more hard points to each turret, or via size upgrades. No amount of “but engineering” in the future changes the fundamental combat design. It simply cannot be someone’s gameplay to have literally only the emp and QED of the Scorp A, or a single 2x S2 Corsair turret with terrible sight lines.

Also ships should not be claimed via insurance and get new missiles and torpedoes.

Pretty sure it has always been the intention to rise fuel prices. As well as tune every ship fuel capacity and consumption. Current values make no sense.

This and Elite dangerous do this. Fuel is like nothing. Now Truck sim games got this right. When fuel prices went up in real life they made the game reflect that. So now I plan my routes with fuel on my mind because certain states are dirt cheap and others are way expensive. Makes for some interesting game play. If they did this in Elite and Star citizen you would have more players at certain points for cheaper fuel leading to more player to player interactions.

You are absolutely correct on everything, including insurance claims! Problem is that this will conflict with the sort that has no patience and wants more of an action shooter than a space sim. This is a struggle within the community about what the game will be. Also, I really want a fresh start server at release, only 1 starter ship package at the start, per account... so you have to play, not pay!

No one cares what you think

I dunno it also has to be fun at the end of the day

I agree entirely. Side note: why no ships in the verse with solar sails?

Honestly, this. I wish we had more 'planetside' missions for delivery, where hydrogen flight, via not burning through atmo but steady cruised cargo flight, conserved hydrogen enough to really make it worth while flying in atmo. Right now, it's crazy that if I choose to spend 'time' to hydrogen flight around the planet (I like flying) I am actually punished. The 'quicker' route of quantum not only generates more money through quicker delivery, but also, for a bizarre reason, conserves cost. You literally save time, and save money, as opposed to conducting an actual thought out process in this current fuel economy.

Fuel in pyro will likely be expensive. Also, maybe Q fuel cost more but I am not sure hydrogen should be. With the bugs in place, I can die in an elevator or walking down a ramp. This, coupled with AI and griefer, pop out of nowhere to blast you for no reason; the strange way my ship guns fail to fire from time to time, and I blow way more money / time on armor and gear and getting back to my ship. An empty ship replacement...that is some such ass customer service. Maybe fix the game first then work out where its reasonable to have higher prices, maybe even get ship armor working first. This is kind of like how I believe the ship should have a bathroom, and it impacts long trips but should not be a managed aspect of the game.

Agreed, however, don't expect the detail that has been considered for Quantum (Star Sim) has not included fuel - and that is also the incorporation of the refining of fuel. All features in this alpha have been awaiting their refactor and it is clear the team have decided to not waste time making intermediary systems when the next tier is in development (the map is a good example - we had the awful map for years!). With the alpha clearly presenting new features and game loops as profitable and then 'nerfing' them back into a more balanced environment - I would say this is to encourage test data to keep flowing. I suspect fuel pricing is the same. While the Sim model is in development they have just essentially given us fuel to be a side thought - one that can create work for the player if ignored, but also one that is not restricting the testing (sorry playing) environment. And also one that tests the fuel game systems ensuring the ships are bug free in regards to this feature. I would say be patient and wait for the economy refactor - and potentially not the first tier of it either, but a pass nearer release to see any really significant changes to fuel pricing. But I am certain this is not missing in their design plans.

Id be ok addressing this AFTER no more bugs, clipping through worlds, spontaneous death, spontaneous explosions, way less time sinks in favor of "gold" sinks, Desync a thing of the past, far less time consuming to meet up with friends. Time alone slows down the ability to make $$$.

I agree for the most part with you. Another idea that would go along with your idea of spawning with an empty fuel tank is to have each personal hangar have a (possibly upgradeable) personal fuel tank that you can fill with fuel yourself from possibly cheaper areas. Would give a better reason to transport fuel for plywrs

Stop requesting to increase the price of everything, not everybody is rich, there are casuals too. kthxbye

I would also say that fuel cost is way to low. BUT since its an Alpha and balancing usually happens in beta, fuel tank sizes and components resource consumption rate is only a rough placeholder, and the fact that CIG wants players to playtest more to deliver on important data, i think that it will change for the release version of the game, for sure. 😉

100% agree Think game is stable enough now to add a zero to the price of both fuel types!

So you want to make the game harder and less attractive for newer players while being a minor annoyance to more seasoned ones? Think of this from a new player perspective, who would want to sit down with their new starter ship, fly around for a bit and take on some starter missions and LOSE money from doing that mission just because they had the audacity to want to learn how to fly first? I agree maybe with making quantum fuel more expensive, but hydrogen fuel should be cheaper than sea water. Hell, they should bring back hydrogen fuel scoops at least on civilian ships/mid size and bigger ships, snubs and light military fighters that are supposed to be stationed around a planet/ on a carrier should be the only ships really missing them.

they need to do a game ...

I agree with your points, but the problem is that Star Citizen is not a game yet. It is an alpha. You seem to be wanted to play as a game when realistically we are all just testers.

5:51 : Imo there's no need for that 3rd "type" of drive that would use less fuel. Logically, if we look at the physics of current engines, it's (basically) the faster you go, the more fuel you use. Current jump drives already work like this.

I think you are right but its not only fuel this is technically applicable on everything we buy and sell in the game. a simple solution for cash sink to support the economy is to add tax% for every transaction in-game, the % value will vary from one system to another.

Uh, no. Have you experienced how much fuel the Cuttlass ships use? At your rate, they'd be permanently grounded. With the latest rounds of mission nerfs, increasing fuel costs greatly will kill the incentive to complete missions. Come 3.24, even looting will be greatly nerfed. Big no in my opinion.

Seriously bro, stop making sense. I'd stop playing if your suggestions were implemented. I already have kids, a wife and a Mortgage. Where is the escapism in true to life gas prices? We are already looking down the barrel of the new inventory system. I don't mind putting on my shoes, but I don't want to tie the laces. and now you are saying gas should cost more! no offense to they guy who invented ratting bunkers, but GFYS. This is the last thing we need.

You're attacking the problem from one angle: the cost of supplies like quant fuel and hydrogen. CIG are attacking it from another angle: reducing mssion payouts. According to discord, in a recent SCL the devs said they want to structure missions so that on average players are making 20K aUEC per hour. So if both of these proposals are adopted (assuming discord is correct about the SCL dev talk) then players who haven't bought UEC will be locked in their habs, selling med gowns until they have enough to fuel their Cutter. And once they have scrounged up enough gowns to afford fuel (most players start with 10K aUEC after a wipe, iirc, so they'd only have to find enough gowns at 45 aUEC per to cover the other 16K fuel cost) then they could start their 20K per hour missions and perhaps make enough to break even

seriously you people discussing this really think that 2 to 300 years in the future mankind would not have a found a better fuel source like safer nuclear? seriously ?

Dude people play games to escape reality. Just sayin.

We also need fuel missions.

Yes and no. I can see this farther down the road as it is just Alpha and other changes need to happen first. Maybe when we get bases we can refine our own fuel? Who knows but let’s fix what is broken rather than adding more lines of code to mess up more things.

I think its a good point, those decision factors make sense

Hydrogen should be cheaper near Crusader and that should be the ONLY place in Stanton where it can be extracted. Starfarers (and other freighters) could buy it cheap and travel to the stations for reliable, steady trade which becomes more profitable the further they go from the gas giant. The best return should be planetside and the cost to consumers should match it. Refuelling on a planet (except at Orison or a fuel barge terminal) would be expensive and something to be avoided wherever possible … even to the point of buying just enough hydrogen to get into space. Starfarers would keep busy with stranded ships, pilots would plan routes to make a fuel stop at Seraphim (second cheapest fuel stop in the system) and people would be incentivised to crew up rather than solo.

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